[8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single - Oh my wish!/Sukatto My Heart/Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

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Favorite A-side?

Poll ended at Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:02 am

Oh my wish!
17
34%
Sukatto My Heart (Refresh my heart)
16
32%
Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki (The courage to jump in right now)
17
34%
 
Total votes : 50

Re: [8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single - Oh my wish!/Sukatto My Heart/Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

Postby sb » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:21 pm

Like I've said many, many times the fact they even attempt to translate the lyrics is a miracle in itself, and something they really don't need to do. H!P is one of the very few Japanese acts that actually acknowledge their non-Japanese fanbase and I give them credit for trying to cater to their non-Japanese speaking fans. And if the translation isn't perfect so freaking what? Is a perfect translation gonna sell more CD's? No. So why waste extra money on a perfect translation when random dude that already works there that knows some English can do it? They don't make any money from translating this. I mean, how bout instead UF decides to say, screw the overseas fans, take your 1:30 long short version of the PV and like it. Or better yet, region block the PV so we can't see it at all. If you want a clean, HD PV then buy the DVD or Blu Ray. But I know I get a full length, 480p quality PV for free and if I gotta deal with suspect subtitles then that's life. I barely notice them anyway cause the girl's usually have my attention.
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Re: [8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single - Oh my wish!/Sukatto My Heart/Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

Postby Zunu » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:16 pm

Starra wrote:
Zunu wrote:a quick and simple means to get the gist of what the song is about

Eh, I'd say a lot of the time they don't even do that. There are so many nuances and whatnot that they miss. Shit, in the Nen ni wa Nen MV they straight up mistranslated 不安. It refers to feeling anxious, not feeling depressed.



and any level of translation is a vast improvement in that.

Even if the translation gives a wrong impression of what they're singing about? (Not trying to be smart here, I'm genuinely interested.)


Yes. In my opinion, even then. They didn't get the exact emotion right but knowing that particular lyric is about an upleasant emotion is more informative than not even knowing if it's about an emotion, a potato, or yesterday's newspaper.

Even if you don't find it depressing, before you move, be double sure.
Even if you've got nothing to worry about, you better think twice before you move.
No need to lose any sleep / But better look before you leap


are all better than

Ta Toe Way! Who ah MMM! Ka un G na cootaymo, Oo GOKU my A nyah kana razzu Nenny Juan N whoa ear a rune DA!


And again, my point is that the reason you get to be annoyed because you already know it's "wrong," so actually the flawed translation doesn't mislead you after all, it's just an annoyance. Meanwhile the people who are actually being misled are totally in the dark about the extent of it. But they still know the song's about the perils of not planning ahead and that's more than what they knew just hearing "Ta Toe Way!"

Pretty much every subtitled movie you ever saw or translated book you ever read has some portions where the translation doesn't quite catch the nuance, and may be totally wrong. As I'm sure you're aware from experience, even English subtitles in English movies omit shit all the time (deliberately!) and occasionally will completely get a phrase of dialog wrong by accident. But people still use the subs with their muted TVs while yakking on their phones -- despite knowing the agonizing reality that subs provide a degraded experience!
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Re: [8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single - Oh my wish!/Sukatto My Heart/Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

Postby Shoujo Q » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:13 pm

As someone with very little Japanese knowledge.
It's getting the point across not getting into detail so you miss what's going on, on the screen. Your brain kinda fills in the rest. Or at least mine does. Subtitles aren't meant to go into great detail. If they did you're probably have a wall of text where a music video use to be.
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Re: [8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single - Oh my wish!/Sukatto My Heart/Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

Postby otaku_blue » Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:43 pm

but can someone translate please the Tsunku notes? we haven't had a translation for one in ages. any interesting bits? dot point summaries are always appreciated.

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Re: [8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single - Oh my wish!/Sukatto My Heart/Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

Postby Amped » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:22 am

from Green Room

Oh my wish! MV behind the scenes with the Dance Team
https://youtu.be/ZhLikb2PBvk?t=29m31s

much needed screen time for the Dance Team

you can see how much the camera goes drunk all over the place
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Re: [8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single : Oh my wish! / Sukatto My Heart / Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

Postby Amped » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:57 am

Amped wrote:also today, 9th gen were altogether again and had an interview with Top Yell magazine.
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https://twitter.com/TopYell/status/623850225891815424


magazine promotion

Top Yell magazine September 2015 issue - 9th generation members featured

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Re: [8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single - Oh my wish!/Sukatto My Heart/Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

Postby Amped » Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:37 pm

promotion

on 8/17 at 9pm to 10pm, Mizuki, Eripon, Harunan, and Ayumi will be live guests on the show "Wata@Ame" at the AmebaFRESH!Studio in Harajuku. It will be broadcasted live on Ustream
http://www.helloproject.com/news/3290/
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/amebastudio

Eripon and Ayumi were just at AmebaFRESH!Studio earlier this week.
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Re: [8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single - Oh my wish!/Sukatto My Heart/Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

Postby Amped » Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:45 pm

Amped wrote:promotion

on 8/10, Eripon and Harunan will be guests live on Nicoraji at the Nico Nico HQ. Handshake event to follow.
http://www.helloproject.com/event/detai ... 4aae0cb735
http://www.helloproject.com/event/detai ... 0215fad851

Nico Nico Live streaming link. starts at 7pm.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv228969051


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on 8/10, after appearing on the Nicoraji event, Eripon and Harunan will host their own Nico Nico Live talk show for the new single.
http://www.helloproject.com/news/3291/

streaming link here at 8pm, starts 8:15
http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv230672169

8:45 is handshake event
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Re: [8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single - Oh my wish!/Sukatto My Heart/Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

Postby Amped » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:02 pm

radio promotion

JFN FRIDAY GOES ON 8.7.15 - guests Suzuki Kanon, Kudo Haruka


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http://www.jfn.jp/News/view/friday/28793
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Re: [8/19] Morning Musume。'15 59th single - Oh my wish!/Sukatto My Heart/Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki

Postby otaku_blue » Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:29 pm

MUSIC+ Ima Sugu Tobikomu Yuuki Recording
https://youtu.be/atiyFqDu5Lg?t=22m31s
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