[1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby AyuHikaru » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:09 pm

[youtube]Wl1iATyFW8Y[/youtube]

Here's mine. Let me direct the next video H!P :rock:
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby 321BreakinOut » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:24 pm

Jessi wrote:Are you guys kidding? The PV looks amazing. None of the sparkly crap from One Two Three and no cheap fire scenes like in Wakuteka. This pv isnt any cheaper than every other PV in H!P. The green screen looks amazing. Its eye catching, dynamic and clean cut. I swear you guys are never happy.

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Seriously. There's no pleasing you guys , there's always some dumb shit to say. Just be happy that management for your favorite groups are putting out anything at all !
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby randompasserby » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:20 pm

^Can't tell if serious or sarcasm :mikihead:

Green screen aren't automatically a bad thing nor does having an actual setting guarantees an enjoyable pv (ask Mano and Kikka ), looking back into their discography since I first became a fan ...
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22 "Roman (My Dear Boy)" warehouse setting, it's ok
23 "Joshi Kashimashi Monogatari" train setting, liked it
24 "Namida ga Tomaranai Hōkago" plain white background, /shrugs
25 "The Manpower!!!" plain dark background, feels cheap
26 "Osaka Koi no Uta" plain dark background +some greenscreen in the sky shots iirc, love this pv
27 "Iroppoi Jirettai" plain dark background +tacky fire cgs, not bad pv
28 "Chokkan 2 (Nogashita Sakana wa Ōkiizo!)" cheap greenscreen+concert clips, unexpectedly fun
29 "Sexy Boy (Soyokaze ni Yorisotte)" white background again, /shrugs*2 fun choreo, catchy song and nice editing saved it though
30 "Ambitious! Yashinteki de Ii Jan" greenscreen ...ok, that was awful lol
31 "Aruiteru" nature background, boring as fuck but ok pv
32 "Egao Yes Nude" plain background I think but wtf pv
33 "Kanashimi Twilight" plain background, liked the pv
34 "Onna ni Sachi Are" plain backgrond, uhhh the costumes >_>
35 "Mikan" greenscreen, meh
36 "Resonant Blue" plain background, liked it
37 "Pepper Keibu" plain background, meh
38 "Naichau Kamo" plain background, liked it
39 "Shōganai Yume Oibito" an actual setting for once yay, loved this pv
40 "Nanchatte Ren'ai" and back to the warehouse we go.. still liked it
41 "Kimagure Princess" plain background, no
42 "Onna ga Medatte Naze Ikenai" plain dark background, boring
43 "Seishun Collection" can't even manage to see the whole pv
44 "Onna to Otoko no Lullaby Game" plain dark background, boring pv
45 "Maji Desu ka Ska!" plain background, fun pv
46 "Only You" plain background, kinda boring
47 "Kono Chikyū no Heiwa o Honki de Negatterun Da yo! / Kare to Issho ni Omise ga Shitai!" oh wow now this is tacky greenscreen, oddly turned out good though
48 "Pyocopyoco Ultra" greenscreen but it's a pretty good pv, still hated that they used the chicken costume for the actual pv
49 "Ren'ai Hunter" plain background
50 "One Two Three / The Matenrō Show" plain background+cgs
51 "Wakuteka Take a Chance" plain background but the vertical bars and table with lights are nice effects

... so it's usually some cheap plain background, a few rare actual settings here and there or a green screen using pv with some (usually) tacky effects. I'll take the latter two every time though and this is what I've come to recognize as UF's style for MM. There's always room for improvement ofc but I wouldn't have stayed if I didn't like it to some degree :lol:

Instead of the settings, what I'd really like UF to spend resource more on are better editing and camera techniques. The actual PV for Help me isn't actually out yet so I'll reserve judgement on that, but I'm getting tired of having a fixed camera angle and relying too heavily on the girls to work the camera instead of giving them more flattering angles. I mean those are fine for Dance Shot. Versions and the people who want to learn the choreography and such but for the actual pvs ... yeah, less of those pretty please :)
(last I remembered interesting edits/camera work was in Naichau Kamo pv, it makes the dance looks much more awesome that it actually was and holy hell Junjun's hot o_O! xD )
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby forgetmenots » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:54 pm

The CG backgrounds themselves are gorgeous, that takes skill and time. I personally like this better than the basic PVs we've been getting (Pyoko and Kare to Isshou Ni excepting) Of course it is still mostly the same formula(CloseUp/DanceShot/Some-other-Shot Rinse and Repeat) just seems like they've been putting more thought into it and trying to move around the footage they got to get something interesting and nice (whether they succeed is obviously up for debate and depends on the person)

I'm also sure this more close up clip is just from a different part of the PV which makes me wonder how the PV is going to flow all together (I can't decide if a lot of variation instead of sticking with the same thing for each part of it. On the other hand they could have changed up the beginning part as well to be more like this clip.

Either way I like looking at it and watching the clips so far, so I guess I lucked out XD
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby Amped » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:41 pm

Amped wrote:Morning Musume nationwide campaign. Morning Musume is aiming to campaign in all 47 prefectures. They are planning to have handshake events, talk events, and mini lives in each region of Japan

here is the schedule for now :
1/8 - Tokyo (Shibuya) - All girls (Satou sick)
1/9 - Kanagawa - Fukumura, Ikuta, Sayashi, Iikubo, Ishida
1/9 - Saitama - Michishige, Tanaka, Suzuki, Kudou, Oda (Satou sick)
1/14 - Hiroshima
1/14 - Okayama
1/14 - Fukuoka
1/14 - Nagasaki
1/14 - Ibaraki
1/14 - Gunma
1/18 - Mie
1/21 - Gifu
1/27 - Osaka
1/27 - Shiga
1/28 - Kyoto
1/29 - Hyogo

all of this in one month. wow. Morning Musume has never campaigned in Mie or Gifu Prefecture before. new territory. more will probably be added, i can see them going to Okinawa and Hokkaido soon.

http://www.up-front-works.jp/morningakusyu2013/
http://www.helloproject.com/event/13010 ... usume.html


1/14 - Hiroshima Tower Records - Riho, Haruna, Sakura
http://www.helloproject.com/event/13011 ... ume01.html

1/14 - Okayama Ario Kurashiki - Riho, Haruna, Sakura
http://www.helloproject.com/event/13011 ... ume02.html

1/14 - Nagasaki - Sayumi, Eripon, Kudo
http://www.helloproject.com/event/13011 ... ume03.html

1/14 - Fukuoka Tower Records - Sayumi, Eripon, Kudo
http://www.helloproject.com/event/13011 ... ume04.html

1/14 - Ibaraki - Reina, Mizuki, Zukki, Ayumi
http://www.helloproject.com/event/13011 ... ume05.html

1/14 - Gunma Takasaki Tower Records - Reina, Mizuki, Zukki, Ayumi
http://www.helloproject.com/event/13011 ... ume06.html

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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby zam_ho » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:46 pm

AyuHikaru wrote:[youtube]Wl1iATyFW8Y[/youtube]

Here's mine. Let me direct the next video H!P :rock:

What software did you use? I couldn't crop out the green back that clean.

If UF/H!P really do have their own production team how come there is a big difference in quality between the groups. I think overall Berryz MVs are better than Momusu. There are even a few really rare good ones like Tomodachi wa Tomodachi Nanda and Loving You Too Much, for example.
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby Moh » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:48 pm

Damn, this thread escalated quickly.
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby Amped » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:54 pm

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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby Starra » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:58 pm

Moh wrote:Damn, this thread escalated quickly.

Seriously. JPlop, I swear to god...
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby randompasserby » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:01 pm

Did I miss anything XD ? seems like the usual MM single thread to me lol
zam_ho wrote:If UF/H!P really do have their own production team how come there is a big difference in quality between the groups. I think overall Berryz MVs are better than Momusu. There are even a few really rare good ones like Tomodachi wa Tomodachi Nanda and Loving You Too Much, for example.

Nope, here's what we call difference in taste lol. I really don't want to start comparing and giving examples (not here anyway) but this is definitely isn't true for me :)
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