[1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby Zunu » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:25 am

Starra wrote:Idk. It feels kind of lazy compared to Wakuteka and especially One・Two・Three... It's not bad, but ehhhh.


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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby 321BreakinOut » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:13 pm

Starra wrote:Idk. It feels kind of lazy compared to Wakuteka and especially One・Two・Three... It's not bad, but ehhhh.

Actually looking at it now on a full screen computer it needs a LOT of work lol
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby zam_ho » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:51 pm

I'm satisfied. The MV is superb. One of the best green screen effort for Momusu.

If I'm not mistaken, this wing formation is a representation of the phoenix.
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I came to that conclusion from Sayu's comments related to the idea of a reborn Morning Musume.

As the phoenix dies in a ball of flame, a new phoenix will arise from its ashes... as the saying goes.
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby Moh » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:13 pm

zam_ho wrote:One of the best green screen effort for Momusu.

lol really? I think the green screen is way too obvious.
I get that there's not a lot one can do with it, but they could've at least tried to make it look more like the girls were in a natural setting.
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby esm » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:25 pm

They look like flat cut-outs.

I wish the dance shot could be the actual PV, with different angles and closer shots from time to time.

Really unsatisfied with a lot of H!P PVs (and covers) in the past few years. The songs have been good, and the girls are awesome, but these few things kind of ruin all of it a little.
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby zam_ho » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:39 pm

Moh wrote:
zam_ho wrote:One of the best green screen effort for Momusu.

lol really? I think the green screen is way too obvious.
I get that there's not a lot one can do with it, but they could've at least tried to make it look more like the girls were in a natural setting.

How could the green screen not be obvious? :/
Those cityscape, there is nothing like it in the real world ( I know it is based on real locations but it doesn't look like that irl ). That itself would shout green screen effect.

Compared to pyoco, this is 100 times better :)

Even to 3.2.1 Break'in Out, I find that Help Me's CG is much better. I actually enjoyed watching the cityscape.
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby esm » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:50 pm

I like the videos for Pyoco Pyoco Ultra and 3.2.1 Break'in Out. Those are meant to look "fake" like toy/play set (PPU) and paper/art project (321), whereas in Help Me it'd help to actually be in those places, at least just the solo shots.

Actually, now that I watched it again the PV is not bad. I like the chorus bits a lot. It's just the solo shots I don't like, but that's the same for a lot of their PVs.

Haruna looks especially good in this single.
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby zam_ho » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:09 pm

I like the closer shots of the dance. I get to see their expressions, especially Riho's much better. I hope they have a MV with a version like that. A floating camera shot instead of a fixed one. The dance shot was too far and I can't really see their expressions.
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

Postby randompasserby » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:17 pm

^This. 100 times this.
That's the reason why I always enjoy seeing live performances in music shows better than any official dance shot pvs XD. Just better camera work in general, get on that UF.
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Re: [1/23] Morning Musume's 52nd Single "Help me!!"

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