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Re: Morning Musume : Wakuteka Take a chance

Postby Jessi » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:40 am

I loved every single but Onna ga Medatte Naze Ikenai and Seishun Collection two of the worst songs in MoMusu history. That was a dark year for Morning Musume... I thought they would just die out. Tsunku seemed to not even be trying. But then he saved it with Onna to Otoko no Lullaby Game one of the best MoMusu songs in their history and the last song of the Platinum Era when you think about it.

I'm happy the kyukkies and jyukkies came though. Oda Sakura too! Renai Hunter OTT and Wakuteka are three of my favorite MoMusu songs. Plus having seen them audition in real time and being able to watch them grow makes me feel closer to them than the OG.
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Re: Morning Musume : Wakuteka Take a chance

Postby 321BreakinOut » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:05 am

Those two singles were flawless though
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Postby Chibs » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:07 am

OOLG was a good way to end platinum musume.
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Re: Morning Musume : Wakuteka Take a chance

Postby wotakubrandon » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:06 am

321BreakinOut wrote:Those two singles were flawless though
Dis truth.

Chibs wrote:OOLG was a good way to end platinum musume.
It really was. They went out with a bang.
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Re: Morning Musume : Wakuteka Take a chance

Postby Parhelion69 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:42 am

I think the Platinum Era was at its highest with Nanchatte Renai, a truly great song and the second best in that era IMHO (the best being Resonant Blue)

Resonant Blue was a truly important song. Mikan practically put MM on the edge of a cliff, the next single would have to be great, or it was over... for good. I'm not saying that I consider Mikan a terrible song. I like it, specially on concerts, but it was weak as a single and it wasn't well received.
Thanks to RB, MM still exists. It was not only a great song, but had a more complex dance than usual, and I believe that was the time when Tsunku told Aichan that they had to step up their game. (dancing and vocal wise)

After Nanchatte, the decline of the platinum era came, and with it, a string of unremarkable songs:

"Kimagure Princess". At first I didn't quite like it, now I love it (on concerts), but it had several flaws. It had to be a sexy, a not have a cowboy theme.
"Onna ga Medatte Naze Ikenai". Horrible outfits as catwalk models? really? The song was ok, but nothing special, really repetitive.
"Seishun Collection". Worst-single-in-the-era. And in the bottom 10 overall. The outfits were horrible. Overly generic and uninspired song. This wasn't MM.
"Onna to Otoko no Lullaby Game". Now this was the first good song in a while, not as good as RB, NR, SYO (which were all truly excellent) but decent enough. Much better than the previous 3, but a far cry from the mentioned songs.

I'd label that as the Dark Era, when MM was in danger again, sales were stable, but getting slowly lower. I hate to admit it, but MM was stale, it seemed like Tsunku didn't care and wasn't even trying, changes had to be made or fans would just leave (in the microcosmos that is the fandom in my country, this is the time where many fans left, and I was starting to lose attention as well)
Adding new members and getting rid of the unpopular ones was the best decision UFA could have made. Don't get me wrong, I liked the chinese girls, I really did, but they just weren't cut out for MM. Fans didn't care, and they were too unpopular. (Eri would have stayed ofc, she was awesome, it was a health reason sadly)

9th gen brought something fresh, brought talent (to a degree), cuteness, genkiness, potential and hope. 10th gen brought some of that, and complemented them with what they were missing, stronger personalities. 11th brings vocal talent.

Now we're with a much more balanced unit than the platinum one, and with lots of potential. It doesn't have the vocal talent of the mentioned era, but has better dancing ability, it has stronger personalities, and is more fun to watch on TV. Also, they're better looking (cuteness-wise, they still aren't as hot as Aichan or Eri for instance, but that could change)

And it's just the beginning. It can only get better.
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Re: Morning Musume : Wakuteka Take a chance

Postby koregaboku » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:09 am

Onna ga Medatte Naze Ikenai is the song that got me into MM fandom...
It's not my favorite song but it has a special place in my heart for that reason.
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Re: Morning Musume : Wakuteka Take a chance

Postby TotallyUncool » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:43 am

For me, it seemed like most of the songs from the 2005-to-recent era weren't bad, and I could have grown to like a lot of them -- for the most part, the technical quality of the production and the arrangement was good, and there weren't very many things that sounded wrong, or that I actively didn't like -- they just didn't sound very memorable to me, and they generally didn't catch my attention.

I think that makes Resonant Blue even more important in my mind -- because it was a good reminder that all of the people involved involved -- Morning Musume, Tsunku, etc. -- were still capable of turning out first-rate, interesting, memorable songs, and that they actually were just going through a long slump for reasons that didn't have anything to do with their ability to produce good music. Which is frustrating, because it suggests that they could have been turning out great songs all through that era, but at least they survived!
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Re: Morning Musume : Wakuteka Take a chance

Postby AyuHikaru » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:48 am

I love all the songs of Platinum Era and all the members. Haters :P
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Re: Morning Musume : Wakuteka Take a chance

Postby riversong » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:36 am

Once Yossi and Miki left, I checked out, tbh. I think I would have stayed around longer if Miki hadn't left so quickly after Yossi had. I just had no interest in any of the remaining members, plus it seems like they waited so long after Aika/Jun/Lin to have auditions again, so that's why I was gone/inactive for something like... five years? until 9th gen joined and I loved all 4 new girls. And from 10th gen I especially love Masaki and Ayumi, but honestly the group as a whole just feels... refreshing. Especially to me since the last time I sat down and watched a MM concert was Yossi's graduation and so it's a completely new set of girls (aside from Sayu and Reina).

I mean, guys, just to give you an idea of how much I love MM again -- I freaking bought the One, Two, Three single. I haven't purchased anything H!P since like, an Ongaku Gatas concert back in 2008. xD;;
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Re: Morning Musume : Wakuteka Take a chance

Postby Chibs » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:04 am

Kimagure Princess could have been a better song, i think if they used their normal singing voices.
for me OOLG>NR or SYO but i guess that is personal opinion. Also liked their first single ONSA.
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