H!P SATOYAMA events and Ambassador activities 2024 thread

[Panic Nancy]

I love Fore Fore, so maybe I should start listening to Kpop, lol.

[wotakubrandon]

And the degree and style of butt-wiggling looks pretty Kpopish to me...

That's about all I can see. I don't think I've ever heard a song like this in Kpop.

That's not that weird since every single K pop sounds the same.

A J & K-pop fusion song like this will of course sound differently.

What's K-pop about it though? That it sounds modern?

[iceymoon]

the soft way they sing, the catchy repetitive line, the inclusion of several "ooh"s in the hook.. it's not that hard to see. maybe if he'd done that type of song before i could just say it's coincidental, but we don't have any H!P songs in its entire history that sound like this. even without having seen the dance/outfits i'd be thinking of kpop. granted, it's Tsunku's take on a style as usual.. so Iroppoi Jirettai is not exactly like Spanish traditional music, but you'd be hard pressed not to say it's based on it (even if the outfits/dance had been totally different). or Renai Hunter with dub-step, if a more modern example helps.

in any case, Forefore got stuck in my head the moment i heard a clip and had popped into my had many many times before i heard it again, so i think he did good. love this song!

[Zunu]

^ Well said, especially the IJ example is an excellent analogy.

[TotallyUncool]

For me, at least, more than anything, it's the way the music's arraqnged -- particularly the bass-and-drum-machine arrangement, which is very typically Kpop (the distinctive drum-machine patterns were among the first things I noticed about Kpop, and they go a long way towards defining the sound).
So much of contemporary pop music in any language comes down to the way it's arranged -- but we hear the singers' voices (or the autotuned versions ) and watch the PVs, so we think in terms of the performers, and not the arrangement. (Even with Hatsune Miku, who is really just an electronic musical instrument with a human-sounding name and a graphic/animated persona, we react to her, and not the composer/arranger who's actually responsible for the song -- and I do this as much as anybody.)

[wotakubrandon]

But k-pop is just contemporary pop music in Korean. Like I don't get the comparison at all.

[TotallyUncool]

No -- it's got a very distinctive style of arrangement, most of which centers around the bass and the drum machine (I'm not sure if Kpop ever uses live drummers). Listen to songs like WG's Nobody But You, or just about anything by SNSD or T-ara -- and listen for the rhythm arrangements, rather than the vocals. It's very distinctive.

[Nayoko-Kihara]

it's Tsunku's take on a style ....

Except it's not. Tsunku didn't compose or write the lyrics for this song.

Forefore〜Forest For Rest〜 arrangement info:
Lyrics: MEG.ME
Composition: MEG.ME
Arrangement: Ikuta Machine (生田真心)

[iceymoon]

i had that feeling when i wrote that sentence. that's what i get when i'm too lazy to double check.
that explains why it's so different from usual H!P~ but i'm sure he still had his hand in somewhere (coming up with the concept, hearing a sample and asking them to do more of this or that, or something like that?). it has the usual H!P bridge doesn't it? (again i'm too lazy to check, so i may be wrong lol.) in any case, you can still tell it's got something distinctively H!P about it, although it's probably one of the few songs i could imagine being released by a non-H!P group.

[wotakubrandon]

WG's/T-ara

The two k-pop groups I listen to most frequently. I can definitely pick out a style in T-ara songs and most WG/JYP songs but I don't think of it as intrinsically k-pop. I especially don't hear it here. I don't know