[8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan [#1 single, 144k]

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Which A-side do you like the most?

Poll ended at Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:10 am

Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke
44
52%
Ai no Gundan
41
48%
 
Total votes : 85

Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby JonCC » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:29 am

wotakubrandon wrote:Because she pops up in the video? :?:

Yes, essentially.
Look at all the other videos: don't see other members "popping up" to the same extent in those now do you?
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Celedam » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:35 am

EDIT: Never mind. I didn't see that the page had turned already.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby esm » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:36 am

- Popped up immediately right after the "I thought 'I can never win over her' about a member" part (using Sohee's translation).
- Didn't really just "popped up" because the camera was on her for like 2 seconds in a video consisting of short clips
- We know Riho is Ayumi's rival. You can probably find evidence of it in so many places.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Amped » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:37 am

promotion

local Fukuoka show FBS Trebian promoting Morning Musume concert tour and new single
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CM on Fukuoka channel promoting Morning Musume concert tour and new single
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby wotakubrandon » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:42 am

JonCC wrote:Look at all the other videos: don't see other members "popping up" to the same extent in those now do you?
Yes. Which is why I thought the lack of other girls in Riho's video was odd. And actually I think someone else mentioned it.
esm wrote:- We know Riho is Ayumi's rival. You can probably find evidence of it in so many places.
Also I think she's stated as much.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Sohee » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:43 am

Ayumi meant Riho. She has said before that she wanted to win over her but then realized she wasn't able to because once seeing Riho up close (after joining) she realized how amazingly good she is.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Jessi » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:00 am

I don't think the video alludes to it at all, but everyone knows Riho is Ayumi's rival so people can infer that the video is most likely about Riho.

Its nice to have a healthy rivalry in the group.

May I also add that recently I've become to enjoy Riho as the center and the Ace. Especially since the other girls are now being pushed left and right I really feel that Riho makes a good center. Her attitude is enjoyable to watch. She really pulls off the Ace thing well.

Riho is no longer the only girl getting lines while everyone is stuck in the back. Many other girls get many solo lines... Sakura, Maachan, Mizuki, Ayumi, (and of course Sayu) while Haruna, Haruka, Eripon and Kanon are starting to get pushed in other ways. Kanon probably gets the least exposure, but she looks gorgeous in Ai no Gundan and Wagamama so I think things are on the upswing for her as well.

I'm in Hawaii so I'm expecting by tomorrow Morning I will hear about sales right? I really want a high first day sales. Something 80-90k range. And for first week I want 120,000 and total sales above 150,000. Any more than that and my jaw will drop. But even if we have first week 100,000k and a weekly number 1 that would be great too. 120,000k total sales would make me happy too.

I don't know I guess I'm just super excited since promotion has been above and beyond awesome and I really hope it paid off.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Celedam » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:15 am

Jessi wrote:I don't think the video alludes to it at all

Then please explain 0:15 in the video.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Amped » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:17 am

Amped wrote:more promo events

Riho, Kanon, Sakura, Masaki talk and handshake event in Aichi, 8/27
http://www.helloproject.com/event/13082 ... aichi.html


about 500+ tickets sold. people who had tickets sat in the priorty area. people passed by and stopped to look.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Jessi » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:35 am

Celedam wrote:
Jessi wrote:I don't think the video alludes to it at all

Then please explain 0:15 in the video.


It was half a second. Not even slowed down so that people would notice. In my opinion If the video was seriously trying to make it obvious they would show Riho several times and even try to get a scene of Ayumi glaring from a distance.

EDIT: I was thinking of 0:30. but 0:15 was so fast that I didn't even notice it until I went back to double check. Not only that, but It took me a second to realize it was even Riho and not Ayumin.

I'll take back the "doesn't allude to it at all" and switch it with "doesn't make any obvious allusion" and add "Its very subtle if anything."

But I wasn't saying the video wasn't about Riho. Clearly she's Ayumi's main rival. She's been her rival since day one.
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