[8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan [#1 single, 144k]

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Which A-side do you like the most?

Poll ended at Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:10 am

Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke
44
52%
Ai no Gundan
41
48%
 
Total votes : 85

Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby randompasserby » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:03 pm

... my ear must be going bad then because I barely noticed the autotune o__o ... well, at least compared to 123 or wakuteka :|
I can't say it was unpleasant either, one of those cases where it actually give the song a nice accent instead of used to cover the singers lack of vocal abilities or just drowning out any other qualities in the song, which 123 and wakuteka came close to doing imo.

Sohee wrote:I really want a Shibuya poster for this one.

Yeah if there's any recent MM singles that deserved another massive billboard push it's this one :D
Just... don't use the cheap, striped dress cover lol.

Speaking of... still no signs of those covers yet huh? xD
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby mura_yo » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:10 pm

I think the wait was worth i..
I like Wagamama better as a song and as a PV.. but Ai no Gundan PV is also great.. those Image shots were a little out of place, but i kinda liked them .

This single better get at least 100K ...
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby JonCC » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:10 pm

kikkawame wrote:Just checked these out and I am disappointed... First of all... Cut it out with the autotuning!!! Seriously, if I had my way I would ban autotuning, it totally removes the individuality from the performances, what is the point of having any character to your vocals if they mechanically remove it? Might as well have them miming, it would make no sodding difference!


Autotune (a catch-all word for any kind of voice processing) is part of mainstream commercial music. Like it, don't like it, whatever.
Just accept that it's not going away anytime soon.

Unless you're some starving indie artist performing on a street corner, nearly everybody uses it.
Some in a subtle manner, others base their entire song around it. Autotune doesn't change the core of the song: a boring singer will remain a boring singer no matter how much digital effects are layered on top of it.

I personally like how in these two songs the digital effects on the voices become part of the instrumental. They are there for a very specific purpose.

If you don't like autotune or pitch correction and want the voices to be "pure" as they are, then what the heck are you even listening to idol music for?
The entire idol industry is rife with it. How can you, for example, listen to most songs Kikkawa You has released since her solo debut ?
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Sohee » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:15 pm

H!S made it to Yahoo News (:
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130 ... 12-rbb-ent

Now maybe this is something that happens all the time, I don't know, but. Yay. 8D
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby forgetmenots » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:06 pm

There's lots of processing at some points, but I don't think it's autotune, honestly. I'm not really sure that in the studio any of the girls would really NEED autotune anymore and there are other ways I'm sure to make a similar "electronic sound" than actually autotuning it. Also I have yet to see any processing Tsunku do destroy the character of Momusu's voices, I think that's an important part of them for Tsunku. It's part of what makes Morning Musume, Morning Musume.

^I haven't noticed any of the other H!S on Yahoo news, but I might have just missed them before as well... The last few music videos since Help Me were getting articles about them on youtube before though if I remember correctly...
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby AyuHikaru » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:27 pm

It sounda like a Vocoder to me, not autotune, which means it's a very intentional deliberate choice on the part of the producer to make the voices blend better with the instrumental.

But honestly, I don't hear it that often... mostly in the beginning and the end. Unless the vocal effects are considered Auto tune (The continuation of the vocals in the instrumental for instance) which it just simply isn't
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby DARC1993 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:36 pm

randompasserby wrote:Speaking of... still no signs of those covers yet huh? xD

Amped wrote:the "Chari Cafe" (Bicycle Cafe) radio show has got sample CDs from MM and Juice=Juice new singles for their radio show to play. they aren't allowed to play it until tomorrow or later.

you can see a little teaser of the covers from MM's single.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby randompasserby » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:49 pm

I'm sorry but I'm not an expert in analyzing 50x50p tiny ass covers lol
My eyesight is already pretty bad as it is, I don't need to make it worse by eyeballing the monitor point blank XD
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby DARC1993 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:11 pm

Oh You said no sign so I thought you hadn't seen the photo Amped posted :P
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby aerosuffly » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:30 pm

I don't really have anything to say because both MVs are too good to be true. Well honestly they were cheaply made, but I have no complaint ... ah ... maybe I lost my mind because I got slapped by Sayu. XD

That scene that looks like Mizuki was blown away by Sayu's slap ... XD

And Sakura shot me with a bunch of arrows ... XD
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