^^True, but I've always felt like a large number of people like idols because they're not perfect. You wanna support them because they're unpolished, and help them grow and become better. Then, years later, you can look back on them when they started out and feel proud of them. I'm like that with lots of my oshis -- most specifically Maimai, though. Watching her grow up has been super fun.
My problem is with people who constantly complain that so and so can't sing/dance/whatever... Like, that's kinda not the point, man. Of course, that's a very small minority, but there are those people out there. Nobody really on JPlop, though, as far as I've seen.
There are also people who don't like idols who can't sing, which, to me, is silly, but hey, everyone has their own preferences I guess.
I feel like some people are being harsh on Ogata and Nonaka from only small snippets of audition footage, which imo isn't really fair, but I'm probably bitching again.