[2/19] Berryz 34th single : Otona na no yo! / 1 Oku 3 Senman Sou Diet Oukoku

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Re: [2/19] Berryz Kobo 34th single : Otona na no yo! / 1-Oku 3-Senman sou Diet Oukoku

Postby Celedam » Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:08 am

Zunu wrote:Curious...is this from something you recall reading, or something you feel stands to reason on its face?

Translation: "Did you just pull it out of your ass?"

Zunu wrote:Because Amazon Web Services have a redonkulous capacity […] I doubt a few (million) album covers rehosted on blogs and fan pages would matter a jot to them.

They get paid for AWS. They don't get paid for album art. As you say, they have razor thin margins already. And the way these things work, once the content is out there, third-parties would create all sorts of utilities to exploit it and thereby reduce those margins even further.

My own guess is that they overcompress the images because they have determined that serving up blazingly fast low-bandwidth page renders trumps offering high-bandwidth product images in terms of what drives sales and retains customers. […] For Amazon, with their razor thin margins and their proficient analysis of Big Data, even if a process proves to be a fraction of a percent more efficient in attracting/retaining customers over time, they will embrace it.

I don't see the contradiction with what I said: they're avoiding unprofitable consumption of bandwidth. You're just approaching it from the other direction. You say "They're saving bandwidth," I say "They're not wasting bandwidth." Glass half-empty, glass half-full.
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Re: [2/19] Berryz Kobo 34th single : Otona na no yo! / 1-Oku 3-Senman sou Diet Oukoku

Postby Zunu » Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:08 am

they're avoiding unprofitable consumption of bandwidth
I agree, there isn't necessarily a contradiction, but there's a crucial difference. What I said is that Amazon's trying to increase sales. Not profits. Hell, they're lowing prices on EC3 *again* despite their cloud services being estimated "to be five times larger than a dozen of [their] top competitors in the market combined." Their current scorched earth business model is notorious for a relentless drive toward market share and a relative lack of the pursuit of profitability. Their profit margin is currently negative 0.24% despite having reasonably good profit margins as recently as 2010. Anyway, my point wasn't to contradict you but (to seize another chance to bloviate and) to find out your source because, if it were the case that they stated this explicitly, it would seem an uncharacteristically picayune concern of theirs. They even sell cover art grabbers on their own appstore. If you did just pull your opinion out of your ass that's cool, I mean, that could basically be our motto here at JPLOP, but I would've been fascinated by your source if extant. Let me reiterate that I do agree that there's nothing "in it" for them to host high-fidelity deep-color album shots, because if there were, they'd be doing it already.

And not that it matters much but I was totally wrong earlier. They have over 2 trillion objects stored now, not 1.2 trillion.
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Re: "This is how we're doin it. Any objections?" GLARE

Postby wotakubrandon » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:04 am

Zunu wrote:And another thing about Miyabi. In Ltd A and C, her magenta dress not only stands out because of its brightness, but because it matches with the B in Berryz. Yeah, this is bleeding obvious, I know. But the reason I'm bringing it up is because it seems to me that a casual consumer would look at one of those covers and likely assume that she's the lead girl since the group name is coordinated to her image. Berryz management (not to mention the girls themselves) have to be aware that this is the impression conveyed by the covers, and yet they still went forward with it. What does that mean, I wonder.
I noticed and figured it was just a coincidence. Or they could be getting ready to give her a push towards definite ace-hood.
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Re: [2/19] Berryz Kobo 34th single : Otona na no yo! / 1-Oku 3-Senman sou Diet Oukoku

Postby Celedam » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:14 am

Zunu wrote:I agree, there isn't necessarily a contradiction, but there's a crucial difference. What I said is that Amazon's trying to increase sales. Not profits.

Fair enough.

Zunu wrote:Let me reiterate that I do agree that there's nothing "in it" for them to host high-fidelity deep-color album shots, because if there were, they'd be doing it already.

Exactly.
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Re: [2/19] Berryz Kobo 34th single : Otona na no yo! / 1-Oku 3-Senman sou Diet Oukoku

Postby iceymoon » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:24 am

is it really Amazon themselves that's doing it? i assumed UF provided them with cover art.. UF does the same saturation thing with their Event V covers on their fanclub pages.
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Re: [2/19] Berryz Kobo 34th single : Otona na no yo! / 1-Oku 3-Senman sou Diet Oukoku

Postby JonCC » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:27 am

iceymoon wrote:UF does the same saturation thing with their Event V covers on their fanclub pages.

Yet on the S/mileage website the CD covers look perfectly fine.
Same goes when purchasing from iTunes.
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Re: [2/19] Berryz Kobo 34th single : Otona na no yo! / 1-Oku 3-Senman sou Diet Oukoku

Postby esm » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:47 am

Zunu wrote:^ I've already gone on record as stating I adore Yabby's entire ensemble. That includes the hair, the crazy contacts, the whole nine. She is just flat gorgeous. :heart:

I like how they styled her.

I mean, it could have been a total mess on almost anyone else, but Miyabi is hot enough that it just works.
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Re: [2/19] Berryz Kobo 34th single : Otona na no yo! / 1-Oku 3-Senman sou Diet Oukoku

Postby iceymoon » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:07 am

JonCC wrote:
iceymoon wrote:UF does the same saturation thing with their Event V covers on their fanclub pages.

Yet on the S/mileage website the CD covers look perfectly fine.
Same goes when purchasing from iTunes.


with iTunes i can understand. it could be some iTunes requirement or quality control, or just the fact that this is not just cover art for reference but the cover art that will appear for people when they play the music.

not sure about S/mileage, they do things that they don't do anywhere else, such as provide higher resolution versions of covers. maybe it's not being monitored too closely? or someone else i managing it and UF only cares about stuff they post themselves? lol.
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Re: [2/19] Berryz Kobo 34th single : Otona na no yo! / 1-Oku 3-Senman sou Diet Oukoku

Postby Amped » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:42 am

serial card release events scheduled for 3/15 (Tokyo), and 3/16 (Osaka)
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Re: [2/19] Berryz Kobo 34th single : Otona na no yo! / 1-Oku 3-Senman sou Diet Oukoku

Postby Amped » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:24 am

Tokyo MX show Nippon Dandy 1-27-14 - Kumai, Miyabi, Chinami.


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