[8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan [#1 single, 144k]

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Which A-side do you like the most?

Poll ended at Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:10 am

Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke
44
52%
Ai no Gundan
41
48%
 
Total votes : 85

Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby JonCC » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:14 pm

kikkawame wrote:@JonCC - So if I don't like autotuning and appreciate vocal talent

Never said anything about appreciating vocal talent, I only adressed the adding of digital effects of any kind to an idol's voice (under the collective term of "Autotune").
There were/are lots of great voices out there. It's a huge idol industry.

kikkawame wrote:A few names for you, Aya Matsurra, Miki Fujimoto, Ai Takahashi, Abe Natsumi, Tanaka Reina, Kikkawa Yuu, Goto Maki...

All artists that are not releasing any new material anymore/are on hiatus (unless you count LoVendoЯ ). I'm talking about the current idol industry and current trends.
Also, just to take one of your examples: Reina. She got a lot of voice processing while in Morning Musume from One-Two-Three onward. Tsunku said it himself during Tsunclub.

kikkawame wrote: *drops mic*

Uhm..okay? Was unaware this was a competition nor was I trying to prove anything. Just having a discussion.

sada* wrote:I feel that JonCC was talking about other idol groups not just within H!P.

Yep: exactly. You may not like them, but at least be aware of them.

esm wrote:Autotune is not just a handicap for singers that can't sing well. I mean, it helps them, but it's also part of the style that's popular right now. Morning Musume still delivers great live performances despite the autotune here and there in the songs; you still get lines that are vocally demanding and have no autotune. (...)They don't use autotune blindly just to make up for lack of vocal abilities but because it actually sounds good. I don't feel that H!P is overdoing it.

That's what I'm getting at.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Amped » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:41 pm

Sayu's white outfit for Ai no Gundan
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Mixi » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:40 pm

The fact that both a-sides are almost equally liked according to the poll just shows how strong of a single this is.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby DARC1993 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:10 pm

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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby DARC1993 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:10 pm

Sayumi looks so beautiful with the dress. O_____O
With out it she would still look beatiful , I'm just saying they complement eachother well.
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Chatin » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:37 pm

DARC1993 wrote:Sayumi looks so beautiful with the dress. O_____O
With out it she would still look beatiful , I'm just saying they complement eachother well.
Little soon to be talking about her post-MM career. :miki:
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby TotallyUncool » Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:21 pm

Autotune: I actually don't hear it as vocal enhancement to make a singer's voice sound like it's in tune. We'll probably have that kind of autotune in a few years - something that tunes a singer's voice so seamlessly that you don't even notice it.

But that's not what we have now. Autotune as it exists today just jumps out at me as a kind of cheesy pseudo-70s special effect, a lot like flanging (which it strongly resembles, at least to my ears), or even that mouth-tube thing that Peter Frampton was notorious for using.

And that's not necessarily bad. When it's used as a special effect (and not in a rather naive attempt to "make the singer's voice sound better") it can be pretty good, in its own pseudo-70s-special-effects way. I think (or at least I'd like to think) that a lot of Jpop and Kpop producers and audio engineers do just that -- push it far enough so that the flanginess comes out, and it functions as a clearly identifiable effect, rather than some kind of not-very-believable "voice enhancement".
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby Amped » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:06 pm

both MVs will be up on the official Morning Musume youtube channel at 5pm, 1 hour from now

Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke MV
[youtube]MhH_ucrPMZc[/youtube]

Ai no Gundan MV
[youtube]sqkgQUF5wfU[/youtube]

go for 10 million views.

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someone asked Tsunku what abbreviation should be used for Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke. he said "Waki Ai J"
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staff now uses it
https://twitter.com/ufdc_official/statu ... 3629843456
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Re: [8/28] Morning Musume。54th single - Wagamama Kinomama Ai no Joke / Ai no Gundan

Postby otaku_blue » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:38 pm

^

"go for 10 million views."
is this a challenge? come at me 5pm JST. :devil:
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