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Re: Tsunku thread
by boinsie » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:17 am
Saying "the state of the idol industry" like that implies that this isn't how it's always been? Go back and watch some Onyanko Club, man.
Also, the show's gotten much better from an "making girls do embarrassing things" standpoint. The first two episodes were arguably a little that-way (though even then, I would have loved to see H!P girls participate, and not for any pervy reasons)... but besides that there have been... 2 episodes where they had the wiggle off a bed? OKay, so those weren't terribly watchable. But honestly? This is the same type of thing the AKB girls do on their show, and they're supposedly "top tier" idols.
My main complaint is that much of what they do on the show is borderline boring, and that the only thing that would make it more interesting is if they were doing it with girls I'm already familiar with. ^^;
Also, the show's gotten much better from an "making girls do embarrassing things" standpoint. The first two episodes were arguably a little that-way (though even then, I would have loved to see H!P girls participate, and not for any pervy reasons)... but besides that there have been... 2 episodes where they had the wiggle off a bed? OKay, so those weren't terribly watchable. But honestly? This is the same type of thing the AKB girls do on their show, and they're supposedly "top tier" idols.
My main complaint is that much of what they do on the show is borderline boring, and that the only thing that would make it more interesting is if they were doing it with girls I'm already familiar with. ^^;
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Re: Tsunku thread
by Celedam » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:37 am
boinsie wrote:Saying "the state of the idol industry" like that implies that this isn't how it's always been?
My mistake. I should have said the nature of the idol industry.
boinsie wrote:This is the same type of thing the AKB girls do on their show, and they're supposedly "top tier" idols.
Indeed, which is why I believe much of AKB's popularity is simply a fad. They happened to be the right group at the right moment to get picked up by the wave.
To be fair, it's not much different for them than it was for UFA in 1999-2000, but at least UFA has, over the long term, tried to develop real talent and maintain the wholesomeness of its girls.
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Re: Tsunku thread
by Zunu » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:17 am
My understanding was that you didn't mean personal preference, but in terms of the how the industry is generally perceived. Like my take would be:
1st tier) Well-regarded professional actresses/soloists = Erika Toda, Chizuru Ikewaki, Kou Shibasaki, Ayaka Hirahara, AKB48 front girls
2nd tier) Top idol group girls, ok pop singers, TV actresses = AKB48 generally, Momusu, Ueto Aya
, Perfume, Saki Fukuda
3rd tier) TV show talents, retired 2nd tier girls, unfamous idol groups = MISONO, Becky, Hitomi Yoshizawa, Berryz Kobo, Momoclo
4th tier) Gravure/sexy photobook idols, Girls circling the orbit of 2nd/3rd tier, but unable to break into them = The Possible, Britney Hamada
, Saaya, MEGUMI, Sayaka Isoyama
5th tier) AV idols well regarded enough to star in lo-budget horror movies or to release a crappy single/Nude photobook idols/fallen idols = Risa Kasumi, Yuma Asami, ASAMI, Sora Aoi, Ai Kago
6th tier) AV generally, the most desperate of idol wannabes or fallen idols = Rina Nakanishi, Tsuntube auditioners
7th tier) Whatever the japanese version of two girls one cup is.
1st tier) Well-regarded professional actresses/soloists = Erika Toda, Chizuru Ikewaki, Kou Shibasaki, Ayaka Hirahara, AKB48 front girls
2nd tier) Top idol group girls, ok pop singers, TV actresses = AKB48 generally, Momusu, Ueto Aya
, Perfume, Saki Fukuda3rd tier) TV show talents, retired 2nd tier girls, unfamous idol groups = MISONO, Becky, Hitomi Yoshizawa, Berryz Kobo, Momoclo
4th tier) Gravure/sexy photobook idols, Girls circling the orbit of 2nd/3rd tier, but unable to break into them = The Possible, Britney Hamada
, Saaya, MEGUMI, Sayaka Isoyama5th tier) AV idols well regarded enough to star in lo-budget horror movies or to release a crappy single/Nude photobook idols/fallen idols = Risa Kasumi, Yuma Asami, ASAMI, Sora Aoi, Ai Kago
6th tier) AV generally, the most desperate of idol wannabes or fallen idols = Rina Nakanishi, Tsuntube auditioners
7th tier) Whatever the japanese version of two girls one cup is.
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Re: Tsunku thread
by Celedam » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:24 am
Yeah, that sounds about right. But frankly, I don't even know half of those…
Wouldn't Sora Aoi be higher? She used to be fairly big (in more ways than one! *rimshot*), at least fourth tier. Did she fall and I just didn't hear about it?
Wouldn't Sora Aoi be higher? She used to be fairly big (in more ways than one! *rimshot*), at least fourth tier. Did she fall and I just didn't hear about it?
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Re: Tsunku thread
by Zunu » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:43 am
^ Lol, you're right. Honestly I kept moving her between 3, 4 and 5 but just gave up. Those other tier 5 girls were in awesomely bad popcorn fodder like The Machine Girl and Robogeisha. Robogeisha is on topic because the announcer reminds me of Tsunku doing his Engrish voice. 
(Vastly expanded and more-offtopic video description of the girls in my previous post)
(Vastly expanded and more-offtopic video description of the girls in my previous post)
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Re: Tsunku thread
by Starra » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:25 am
I love Sola Aoi. She's great.
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Re: Tsunku thread
by Amped » Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:35 pm
Tsuntube 19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3D47ffBP7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3D47ffBP7Y
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Re: Tsunku thread
by boinsie » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:29 am
TsunTube #20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOLzWsSJr_s
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http://ameblo.jp/tsunku-blog/entry-11078324807.html
When we mere mortals think of a BBQ, we think of marinated, charred meats and vegetable sides drowning in mayonaise. Tsunku, proving that he's superior to you in almost every way, pulls out a stick and makes baumkuchen, a dessert widely considered difficult to make even in a controlled kitchen.
(Link also includes pics of his daughter picking root vegetables).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOLzWsSJr_s
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http://ameblo.jp/tsunku-blog/entry-11078324807.html
When we mere mortals think of a BBQ, we think of marinated, charred meats and vegetable sides drowning in mayonaise. Tsunku, proving that he's superior to you in almost every way, pulls out a stick and makes baumkuchen, a dessert widely considered difficult to make even in a controlled kitchen.
(Link also includes pics of his daughter picking root vegetables).
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