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I’m wondering in the “new development” in regards to the Kenshuusei show has anything to do with this audition?
I’d love to see the full audition process for the Kenshuusei and how it differs from the general audition for those off the street.

If the Kenshuusei do go through their own audition, you know Hello Dream is gonna want to capture it all. It is juicy content. They did just go through one already.

It sounds like Tsubaki was asked if they wanted to be generational and were cool with the idea, whereas Kobushi did not want to become generational. I think the 3 being added after formation isn’t really indicative of them being generational already but it doesn’t really matter. If Tsubaki is happy then I’m happy for them.

Yeah, the last three were added before the group’s major debut, so it’s hard to think of them as a generation in the usual sense.

I can see the same pattern with Anju’s new members, the Kenshuusei members will likely add in a separate way with the winner from the audition one. Beside is it obvious that Kenshuusei program have this much exposure (harodori).

Tsubaki Factory Ono Mizuho, Onoda Saori, and Akiyama Mao actually celebrates their own separate anniversary of joining the group as a generation.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CD0fZmvgLCG/

Tsubaki Factory announce second generation members
https://hellonewsservice.wordpress.com/ ... n-members/

Amped wrote:Tsubaki Factory Ono Mizuho, Onoda Saori, and Akiyama Mao actually celebrates their own separate anniversary of joining the group as a generation.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CD0fZmvgLCG/

Entirely informal and personal. What they do amongst themselves is their own business. It's basically the same as members who were Kenshuusei together reuniting during the summer and winter tours.

Amped wrote:Tsubaki Factory announce second generation members
https://hellonewsservice.wordpress.com/ ... n-members/

Seriously? A foreign fan with a broken blog makes up their own headline for official news that says nothing about a second generation, only "new members" (follow the link), and you think that counts?

I know you hate to be contradicted, Amped, but c'mon. Surely you have better things to do than to scrape the bottom of this particular barrel.

Does any of this matter? By and large history has shown us management can pretty much do anything they want with group structure.
'New members', 'generations', it's all semantics at this point.
The only rules are the ones fans invent for themselves and those pretty much go out the window on a regular basis.

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I'm always happy for new members, as part of a new group, concurrent, subgroup, solo or adding to an existing group.
It's what keeps H!P alive.

JonCC wrote:By and large history has shown us management can pretty much do anything they want with group structure.

Yes, but...

JonCC wrote:'New members', 'generations', it's all semantics at this point.

No, not all, not when the agency's marketing and merchandising strategies are based on such distinctions.

If we really wanted to get down to brass tacks, the truth is that Up-Front (and its subsidiaries) has under contract roughly a hundred female talents, ranging in age from their early teens to their late forties, who are almost entirely interchangeable. They all have roughly the same skillset as entertainers, with relatively minor variations in proficiency. Everything else — calling them idols, calling them “Hello! Project”, organizing them into groups, calling some OG, calling some Kenshuusei, having ceremonies to transition them from one classification to another — is marketing and merchandising.

Amped wrote:Juice=Juice and Tsubaki Factory each make the audition announcement official and describe what they what type of girl they want to join.

Tsubaki Factory wants to get the group even more noisier.
Inaba Manaka wants to see a cute smol girl join

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDeOoSuIzlY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA7vxxKIkhY

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